I missed it when it first aired in January, but this is a great episode of the Serious Play podcast by @LeedsAHRI @roastfkll @emcstainforth @oquays & Oliver Thurley, featuring @jolwalton on the #AppliedHope Solarpunk & Utopias Jam
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/serious-play/episodes/Episode-2-Jo-Lindsay-Walton-e1dj2qs